Talk:Die Feuerzangenbowle

A fact from Die Feuerzangenbowle appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 January 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the German actor Heinz Rühmann was 42 years old when he starred as a high school student in the 1944 film Die Feuerzangenbowle?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/January.

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This was a requested page at the WikiProject Germany, so I pulled together some information from the German Wiki and other sources. Speaking of sources: Most of them are German as I could find only one reference that had been translated into English. If anyone knows more, please add them. Also, the movie info box contains a line "imdb rating". I wasn't sure what that meant and put in the minimum age limit (12) of the German release for now. If that is wrong, please correct it. Please proofread and copyedit as deemed necessary! -tameeria 22:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that to be the rating given by imdb.com. That is 7.9. But the figure does not show in the infobox anyway. Agathoclea 10:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Brett

"Given its historic context as being produced in Nazi Germany, the movie is of an ambivalent nature. The charm of the teachers in the movie lies in their old-fashioned attitudes and individual quirks. As representatives of an older, non-fascist generation, they were a nostalgic reminder of a lost past to the wartime generation in Germany. The movie ridicules and at the same time celebrates this lost individuality through parody.

On the other hand, as a state-controlled movie production it also contains latent propaganda for Nazi ideologies. This is particularly evident in the role of the teacher Dr. Brett, a figure that does not appear in the 1933 edition of the book and the 1934 movie version So ein Flegel but was added to the 1944 movie as a spokesperson for the "new time" (the fascist regime) who gains the students' respect."

This passage is some kind of propaganda on its own. Dr. Brett is a very firm, but nevertheless modern teacher who does not in the least resemble a Nazi. Other than most Hollywood productions of that time German films only seldomly confused entertainment with propaganda. On the opposite, both were sharply kept apart.

Dr. Brett as a history teacher even shows a great sense of humor, for instance when Pfeiffer is applying the mirror trick in order to help another student explain the peoples' migration.

Dr. Brett was not invented as some kind of Nazi-teacher, but he replaced two other, rather boring teachers in the book that, as a character, were both not suited for a film. In the end, also several students were omitted or changed and others invented without any political purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harald4244 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 23 November 2007

The interpretation of Dr. Brett's role is coming from three published sources. I'm sure there are other interpretations, but this is the only one I found that could be sourced to multiple references. - tameeria (talk) 13:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UTC: You should take into account that almost everything that was made in the Nazi-era was afterwards interpreted in the light of propaganda. There may be thousands of sources: they are almost never objective. Besides: I got your message that I accidentaly deleted the article. I am not aware of such a thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harald4244 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 2 December 2007

You didn't delete the page, but accidentally overwrote the content of this talk page when commenting. Things like that happen and are easily fixed. - tameeria 20:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Very strange. Actually I didn't write anything here. Moreover I have seen your postings about my "not behaving civilly". Next time you should ask before accusing someone of anything behind one's back. - harald4244 23:21, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]